Conference : What the Thunder Said : The main conference. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/ not a clue sorry, altho this is alittle over due I thought I'd stil might reply http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3FA18F3D-E1CA-7789-94D16260326F234D&r=1 2007-04-22T21:39:51-04:00 about a wasteline yea same here. Though I'm only an high school Freshman, I've done/am doing a report on him for a speech topic and I've been unable to find too much information on him about certain points and subjects. I may not be an Eliot Scholar or dealing with professional poetry, but I am very much interested in poetry and if you've got any tips please suggest them to my e-mail address- poetic_4ever@yahoo.com Researching on ELiot has helped and inspired me much, but since I'm still a late started poet I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what exactly makes a poem. I've thought it over many a time, but it still hasn't clicked. I keep thinking of this phrase/verse Eliot had said/wrote: Poetry is not the turning lose of emotions, but an escape from emotions; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But, of course, only those who have personality and emotions knows what it means to want to escape from these things.-T. S. Eliot I just kind of figured that possibly people that like and are doing research on T. S. ELiot might be a bit interested and influenced into poetry. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=95F3195B-CB98-D2EE-F065298BB25ED2E4&r=2 2007-04-22T21:38:07-04:00 searching for a line You really think I would? I've never heard of that poem, before I'll have to look it up sometime. What do you mean by "Though his religious phaze lost him a few friends"? Just out of curiosity. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3F989D61-E9F0-0CF1-6F03A865FDE25046&r=3 2007-04-22T21:28:49-04:00 This is a hollow page Hi Poetic Sounds like you might enjoy Eliot's 'Murder in the Cathedral' Though his religious phase lost him a few friends. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3F989D61-E9F0-0CF1-6F03A865FDE25046&r=4 2007-04-14T20:28:58-04:00 This is a hollow page Hey anybody like this poem that I'm entering in a Poetry Contest? The Answer is: Friendship I'm feeling lost in my own graveyard. The spirits come for me through this backyard, creeping towards me with an evil grin, daring me to make a sin... As this thick, dirty, red, blood drips from my hands, I begin to turn away quietly to run to hiding lands. But I hear a voice calling out to me, telling me to just wait and see. A boy about my age walks out from behind me. He takes my hand and whispers silently, The spirits are now disappearing, I'm here for you, I came to tell you of Jesus and give you this riddle that's for us two: First he spoke of Jesus and how He helps us resolve, He's always there for you, now here is what you must solve: I am a light, I shine bright. I call out to few, I've been given to you. I am quite strong, and I hold on long. Now tell me what I am? The boy looks at me and whispers, the answer is: Friendship…… -Tasha- http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3F989D61-E9F0-0CF1-6F03A865FDE25046&r=5 2007-04-14T14:35:47-04:00 This is a hollow page Idk I wanna know more about him, I mean i've got plenty stuff on him and all, but what are your personal thoughts on Eliot? P.s. Anbody a freshman in High School on here? http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=F15F96D1-FFCD-38AC-4AD8E248C8969BA5&r=6 2007-04-14T14:34:05-04:00 OK, so what's up? Ok thanks much! =) That's really good! Actually yeah I do write. I write a lot really. =P I've been writing speeches, poems, lyrics, riddles, and things like that for almost two years now. Do you write? http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=4DE3534D-FFCD-38AC-4A8B887DA74288C9&r=7 2007-03-21T17:59:22-04:00 I need Info http://www.bartleby.com/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/sitesearch?FILTER=colEliot-Th&query=poetry+is+an+escape Try the url above.(reflecting the words below and much more)... The other aspect of this Impersonal theory of poetry is the relation of the poem to its author. And I hinted, by an analogy, that the mind of the mature poet differs from that of the immature one not precisely in any valuation of "personality," not being necessarily more interesting, or having "more to say," but rather by being a more finely perfected medium in which special, or very varied, feelings are at liberty to enter into new combinations. Do you write? http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=4DE3534D-FFCD-38AC-4A8B887DA74288C9&r=8 2007-03-21T01:23:53-04:00 I need Info Hey does anybody have any information we could discuss about T.S. Eliot? I have a speech on him and I'm really interested in poetry, actually I have about 100 accounted for poems in a notebook. T.S. Eliot has really been inspriring me lately especially this phrase he said: "Poetry is not the turning lose of emotion but an escape of emotion; it is not the '?' personality but an escape of personality. But, of course, only those that have personality and emotions knows what it means to want to escape from these things." I fergot what the '?' area was so that's why it has been question marked. Please send information if you have any on T.S.Eliot or a possibility on what you know or would like to express about him. Please reply at: poetic_4ever@yahoo.com please and thank you! -a VERY poetic gurl http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=4DE3534D-FFCD-38AC-4A8B887DA74288C9&r=9 2007-03-13T19:40:15-04:00 I need Info Sorry - no idea. I did some searching myself and was unable to find it. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=95F3195B-CB98-D2EE-F065298BB25ED2E4&r=10 2006-10-29T16:30:20-04:00 searching for a line Please excuse my newness, if I am in any breach of etiquette. I haven't participated in such fora. I could use some help by an Eliot scholar. As I remember, when the poet was asked for his favorite sentence in the English language, he surprised his audience with an immediate reply. What was it? (I hate to prejudice your mental search and retrieval, but my ESP is pointing to Much Ado About Nothing.) Richard rgr324@gmail.com http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=95F3195B-CB98-D2EE-F065298BB25ED2E4&r=11 2006-10-29T16:21:46-04:00 searching for a line Sorry, but no. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3E0BA967-B533-7237-ED464608BFCAA4EF&r=12 2006-08-24T18:32:20-04:00 "Ode"/4 poems in French No, unfortunately; that's an "Ode" I was unaware of. The "Ode" I want concerns sexual impotence, and Eliot came to think very quickly that it was too crass. So he cut it out of his poetry collections forever--it appeared only in "Ara Vos Prec," his second collection of verse, in England, in 1920. It wasn't even in the American collection, "Poems," that came out the same year, the contents of which are otherwise identical to "Ara Vos Prec." Unfortunately, "Ara Vos Prec" now costs thousands of dollars, which is too much, even for this poem. (But it might be in some posthumous publication somewhere, I'm thinking.) Thanks a lot anyway. Any info regarding the poems in French? http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3E0BA967-B533-7237-ED464608BFCAA4EF&r=13 2006-08-24T18:15:24-04:00 "Ode"/4 poems in French Is this it here: http://world.std.com/~raparker/exploring/tseliot/works/poems/eliot-harvard-poems.html Scroll down a bit. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3E0BA967-B533-7237-ED464608BFCAA4EF&r=14 2006-08-23T22:48:34-04:00 "Ode"/4 poems in French Does anybody know where "Ode" (published in the 1920 "Ara vos prec" and, to my knowledge, nowhere since) can be found. I can't afford to by the 1920 collection. Also, can anyone tell me what edition and/or online site has the 4 French poems published in Prufrock and Poems (1920) translated into English? Thanks so much. Is there anyone even there? http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=3E0BA967-B533-7237-ED464608BFCAA4EF&r=15 2006-08-23T22:39:14-04:00 "Ode"/4 poems in French Hello, I am doing a report on Eliot and more specifically his Ash Wednesday poems. I was wondering if you had an opinion on the poem or if you had any links to poem review sites that I could cite. I'm having a hard time finding any info on Ash Wednesday and the sites I can find are usually just the poem itself. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=8F0BB619-BB08-E7B6-4627FEE7888DF88C&r=16 2006-04-12T13:00:10-04:00 "Ash Wednesday" I don't actually post the content of the poems on my site due to copyright concerns. If the version I linked to is missing, and you find a better one, let me know! http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=DBD7B886-FBC8-75E8-FBA91E8770676ED7&r=17 2006-04-07T11:03:12-04:00 hollow men Where is the epigraph for this poem, it should be here, I thought it was important http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=DBD7B886-FBC8-75E8-FBA91E8770676ED7&r=18 2006-04-07T10:56:23-04:00 hollow men I googled the following. [PDF] LAMOS PrelimsFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat once termed “the natural sin of language.” 55. In his earliest literary criticism Eliot praises unity, both the formal. unity of a particular work and the ... assets.cambridge.org/052162/ 4185/sample/0521624185web.pdf - Similar pages thesis2... In an uncollected essay, he describes the inadequacy of words as the “natural sin of language” (Bush 6): Just as the individual soul is blemished from the ... www.lwallach.com/thesis2.html - 42k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=D2F4B909-965C-264D-C93822E0B99728AF&r=19 2006-04-05T14:32:30-04:00 "The natural sin of language" could somebody please tell me where I can find this essay of Eliot's? or if smbd has it as a pdf,word document,could they please mail it to me on the following e-mail address:death_by_water@yahoo.com?! thanks a lot http://www.whatthethundersaid.org/forums/messages.cfm?threadid=09723800-B8CF-2E63-73928408DA0BFF60&r=20 2006-03-17T13:23:01-04:00 The Three Voices of Poetry